Curse

makosi · Oct 24, 2007, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Lately I've been noticing much more interrupts from monster AI and interrupts that should be theoretically impossible. It comes as great frustration when your 1/4 second spells are interrupted by 1/2 second interruption skills.

For example, in Normal Mode, a monster uses Savage Slash which takes 1/2 seconds to activate and Reversal of Fortune takes 1/4 seconds to cast. How is it possible then that the foe manages to interrupt Reversal of Fortune so many times? It defies common mathematics.

It is, therefore, extremely irritating for the poor spellcaster who is subject to these interrupts. It's easy to feel cheated.

Anyone else dislike this?

[Apologies if this is the wrong sub-forum]

arcady · Oct 24, 2007, 10:24 PM // 22:24

pre-interrupt.

I've done it on my Mesmer before, I see a target I suspect is very likely to hand out some major smack down, and everything else is recharging, I'll start casting that longer interrupt hoping they will cast something and get it interrupted.

Usually fails, and I remind myself to stop doing that, but sometimes it works.

Martin Firestorm · Oct 24, 2007, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Nah, its fine with me. This is the one thing that the AI generally does as well or better than ppl. You could always fight fire with fire--heroes and henches with interrupts are just as good. Team up with Erys Vasburg in Factions sometime if you want to see some killer interrupts. But I like the challenge of facing this AI, though admittedly it can be frustrating, especially when there are several of them.

Kaida the Heartless · Oct 24, 2007, 10:29 PM // 22:29

I've been interupted before my castbar hit the screen. Amazing XD

Kinda makes me mad too. I mean, they are consisantly "pre-interupting" with phenominal accuracy.

BlackSephir · Oct 24, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40

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Originally Posted by arcady

pre-interrupt.

I've done it on my Mesmer before,

I think actual pre-interrupting would require inteligence or real AI... mobs don't have that.

Darkpower Alchemist · Oct 24, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

It happens to the best of us. I'm mean on the twitcher, but sometimes I twitch and hit power block

[skill=big]Power Block[/skill]

I can catch a Crypt Wraith 1 in 7 times with either [wiki]Concussion Shot[/wiki] or [wiki]Savage Shot[/wiki] on a good day. Otherwise it's a solid 1 out of 10. I've even caught [wiki]Faze Magekiller[/wiki] a few times. It's not foolproof, but it can be done. If able to be done by a human, imagine the computer programmed AI.

arcady · Oct 24, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

There are also a number of interrupts that work as "If target does anything in the next 3 years, you interrupt it and get to lol at them."

And pre-interrupting as a tactic can make sense when facing certain opponents. Its not so much that the AI needs skill to do it, just a skillbar that doesn't give it much choice other than to spam interrupts and hope one of them sticks.

Its not that pre-interrupting tends to be a tactic of thinking, more so a tactic of 'OMG, I have to click my mouse on everything, like now!" which is kind of how the AI does it sometimes...

Sometimes that tactic works by accident. Sometimes it even chains into a series of successful interrupts in the way that if two blind people run around in circles in a room, there is a chance, ever so small, that they will keep smacking into each other over and over again.

Shiishii Momo · Oct 24, 2007, 11:32 PM // 23:32

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Originally Posted by arcady

Sometimes that tactic works by accident. Sometimes it even chains into a series of successful interrupts in the way that if two blind people run around in circles in a room, there is a chance, ever so small, that they will keep smacking into each other over and over again.

I will give you 10 plat if you can video tape that and let me watch it. muhahahaha!!

Kale Ironfist · Oct 25, 2007, 12:40 AM // 00:40

I once used Power Return to interrupt Aura of Restoration.

Crom The Pale · Oct 25, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Keep in mind there is a major diff between your reaction time and that of the AI, add some lag too.....

What gets me is when a monster is focused on one target, changes to interupt me, then swings back to that target so fast I cant even tell who interupted me!

Jetdoc · Oct 25, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

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Originally Posted by makosi

For example, in Normal Mode, a monster uses Savage Slash which takes 1/2 seconds to activate and Reversal of Fortune takes 1/4 seconds to cast. How is it possible then that the foe manages to interrupt Reversal of Fortune so many times? It defies common mathematics.

I swear that monster AI has access to the recharge times of our skills. I found that if I utilize a skill immediately after it recharges, many times I'll get interrupted, even on the 1/4 activation times.

However, if I pause just a second after the recharge timer is up, I can normally get it off.

Viruzzz · Oct 25, 2007, 12:53 AM // 00:53

seen Reversal of Fortune interrupted with earthquake(KD), only seen it once though.

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I swear that monster AI has access to the recharge times of our skills. I found that if I utilize a skill immediately after it recharges, many times I'll get interrupted, even on the 1/4 activation times.

they don't need to know the recharge time of your skill, they are controlled server side, and your request to use a skill is also handled server side, before you actually get to cast it, so it's not really surprising that they are able to.

also monsters don't try to interrupt, they just plain interrupt, I have never seen a monster cast an interrupt when the target is not using a skill.

Skyy High · Oct 25, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

I swear that monster AI has access to the recharge times of our skills. I found that if I utilize a skill immediately after it recharges, many times I'll get interrupted, even on the 1/4 activation times.

However, if I pause just a second after the recharge timer is up, I can normally get it off.

Yes...it's called counting. Why shouldn't the AI know? Humans do it too (dshotting BSurge on recharge ftw?)

unknown1 · Oct 25, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43

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Originally Posted by Viruzzz

seen Reversal of Fortune interrupted with earthquake(KD), only seen it once though.

they don't need to know the recharge time of your skill, they are controlled server side, and your request to use a skill is also handled server side, before you actually get to cast it, so it's not really surprising that they are able to.

also monsters don't try to interrupt, they just plain interrupt, I have never seen a monster cast an interrupt when the target is not using a skill.

i have. they pre-int sometimes avacari do that to me sometimes.

azizul1975 · Oct 25, 2007, 01:57 AM // 01:57

i equipped my zhed/sousuke with [skill]Power Drain[/skill] for energy management but they dont use it as often as they have the chance. dont know why... may be they are busy burning people with [skill]Searing Flames[/skill] and [skill]Glowing Gaze[/skill].

Incandecree · Oct 25, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Technically since a stance has no cast time it shouldn't be able to be interrupted. Yet, I have had on a few occasions a stance get interrupted by the AI. The best example of irony was I had Mantra of Resolve interrupted.

Cherng Butter · Oct 25, 2007, 03:14 AM // 03:14

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Originally Posted by Incandecree

Technically since a stance has no cast time it shouldn't be able to be interrupted. Yet, I have had on a few occasions a stance get interrupted by the AI. The best example of irony was I had Mantra of Resolve interrupted.

Stances can be interrupted?

Lord Sojar · Oct 25, 2007, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Cherng Butter

Stances can be interrupted?

No, he is deranged... Stances occur...

Incandecree · Oct 25, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

They may occur but I can guarantee that I had Mantra of Resolve interrupted. I was 55ing and using Mantra of Resolve. Next thing I know I was getting interrupted. I looked at the active skills and Mantra of Resolve wasn't up next to the HM icon. I looked down and Mantra of Resolve was recharging. If it wasn't interrupted then the skill must have deactivated itself. With the same area at a different time I had Bonetti's interrupted.

Lord Sojar · Oct 25, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Incandecree

They may occur but I can guarantee that I had Mantra of Resolve interrupted. I was 55ing and using Mantra of Resolve. Next thing I know I was getting interrupted. I looked at the active skills and Mantra of Resolve wasn't up next to the HM icon. I looked down and Mantra of Resolve was recharging. If it wasn't interrupted then the skill must have deactivated itself. With the same area at a different time I had Bonetti's interrupted.

Your stance was removed because you didn't meet the requirements, or something removed it such as wild blow. If you can activate a stance whilst KDed, then obviously, they cannot be interrupted. On the other hand, they CAN be diverted.